one of the nice things ive found about Viki too is that if you have the timed comments running (which tbf is a huge mixed bag) and something is translated really poorly, someone will probably correct it. DF doesn’t really ever correct anything

and having forgot to put the rest of my comment… or someone will usually end up fixing the sub later since its not locked up to being able to do so

I personally don’t use the timed comments if I’m watching Viki on streaming, but I do find that I’m more forgiving when it comes to fan-subbed mistakes since I know it’s volunteer and sometimes whomever might have subbing that segment might not necessarily know exactly the correct translation at times. But generally, thanks to so many eyes on it, it’ll be caught and corrected eventually.

Hey! I was wondering why everyone has a problem with DF subs? I’ve heard complaints about it ever since I got into dramas three years ago but I don’t understand the technicals of subbing/translating and really just didn’t think about it as long as I could watch a drama so I never joined the bandwagon with that. I was hoping you could enlighten me? Thank you!

There’s deeper history with how DF has usurped the fandom-run drama subbing community that I won’t really get into here, but just be aware that it’s there as an undercurrent to the frustrations with DF in general.

The subs themselves are… okay, I guess… but it’s more of a “here’s the gist” instead of a faithful interpretation. Like if you’re going to read the Bible and are happy with “The Message” translation, which makes for a good read, but isn’t as accurate as, say, the ESV translation (which maybe some don’t like because it’s not as easy/fun to read).

There’s often elements where the subbers decide how to translate something to interpret a scene but they actually are wrong by taking away from the actual wording. The Korean language is delightful in the way it plays with wording (so many puns!) and also there’s a vagueness to the language which often leads to misconceptions that further plots. I’ll direct you to my proverbial straw that broke my camel’s back (and let’s just say I never in my wildest dreams imagined I’d be arguing on the internet about condoms in a kdrama, but there you go).

Personally, I’ve always been fond of the fan-subs. My first encounter with dramas was through the WITHS2 community (and you’ll notice that on a lot of the pre-2011 dramas, DF uses fan-subs taken from communities such as those), and today my preference are the Viki subs. Of course, fan subs aren’t perfect, either, but I feel that they work hard to keep true to the original wording and intent of scenes than the so-called professional subbing of DF.

I always really want to support DF just because they’ve helped to make dramas so much more accessible, but their business practices, attempts at monopolies, and mistakes in subbing give me serious pause.

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Awww, thank you! You’re so sweet. ^_^

PS – non-spam blogs are welcome to stop by and say “hi” – I promise I’m not scary at all.

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Idk if I would recommend sticking with CitT. I’m caught up and frustrated because it feels like it’s not really going anywhere.

If it’s not going anywhere because it’s a slice of life drama, that’s fine with me Not everything needs a high octane plot.

If it’s not going anywhere because we still don’t know why Jung has a stick up his butt and is obsessed with Seol, then that’s okay, because I don’t really care. He just better not stress her out even more. College is hard enough without dudes being all creepy and clingy.

hi, i just tried to watch the first ep of local hero/neighborhood hero and the first scenes are just way too over the top soap opera.. does the rest of the drama feel like that? i cant believe soo hyuk would do a drama like that?

You mean all the stuff in Macau? That’s just the setting, really. You need that backstory to understand why Shi Yoon is so determined to figure out who outed his crew and mission.

The most fun is watching these old/retired spies be normal people (and watch the bumbling but adorable Chan Gyu [Soo Hyuk] attempt to spy on professional spies, like, good luck with that, dude). The charm for me is the characters and how they’re all underdogs banding together to save the neighborhood from being ruined by corporate developers. There’s more to it than that, but that’s the bit that most interests me – the spy stuff (as set up in Macau) isn’t, but we need that brooding mission underpinning the other stuff.

I’m pretty sure I’m not alone, though, in saying that Soo Hyuk is definitely stealing the lime-light. His character is just so adorkable you can’t help but root for him.

Sung Joon needs to move on to a better agency tbh as much as i dont want to put all the blame on the agency but looking at his past works before he sign with his new company the choices were pretty good and versatile. Now is just all pretty much the same going downhill except that i knew that it was his choice to be on HJM which his company totally disagree on

I haven’t really paid attention to if he actually changed agencies, but I do feel like someone keeps pushing him to play the romantic lead when I think he’s much more interesting when he’s not the lead, and preferably in some darker role. Most of the idol-actors I prefer to be supporting characters, actually, because I’m not all that convinced they can handle the weight of a leading role. Which is not to denigrate them because the majority of the time I watch dramas (or stick with a drama) for the supporting characters, generally caring little about what happens to the leads so long as their world lets the supporting characters be awesome.

I had no idea that it was his choice to do Hyde, Jekyll, Me, and even though that was a terrible drama, I actually really enjoyed his scenery chewing! It was a fun role for him to play with, and even though I’ve said it a million times already, I’d love him to keep pursuing roles like that.

I feel like his trajectory is the opposite of Soo Hyuk, who seems content to stick with odd side/supporting characters, going for roles that challenge him but also aren’t completely out of his wheelhouse. Not that all his dramas are necessarily good (pretty sure I’m never gonna watch Scholar That Walks In The Night), but he usually ends up being a scene stealer and making the drama that much better. I feel like Soo Hyuk is learning as he goes, even when it comes to lack-luster dramas, but with Sung Joon… sigh… his characters often feel like the same flat character as before, especially when he’s the lead. Yet I still really love him? That’s the power of the first impression, I guess.

Honestly with Sung Joon, as much as I’ve loved a few of his characters, I have to hear good things about any drama he’s doing before I watch it. His skill (or his company’s skill) in drama-choosing seems to be horrendous and I’ve just been burned too many times. Maybe one day he’ll be in something I like but until then I’ll only remember him in SUFBB, White Christmas, and Pluto.

Those are what I think of as his best roles, too! Although I also really liked him in Lie to Me. But what is important to note is that these are all from 2012 or earlier. He’s had his moments in later dramas, but nothing that compares to his earlier works by any stretch of the imagination.

He should fire his agency (or hire someone to be extra picky about what roles and dramas he chooses). I think he has the potential to be a decent actor, but as drama after drama goes by and I’m once again disappointed, well… sigh… I just can’t quit him like I can quit his dramas. *cries*

I keep telling myself I’ll get around to watching it, but I said the same thing with Mrs. Cop and My Beautiful Bride, and I still haven’t watched those >.<

Don’t feel bad! The nice thing about dramas is that they’re always there for when you finally decide you’re in the mood to watch them, be it months or years later. Or even never. :p

I think I personally prefer marathoning older dramas that no one is currently watching because it’s like this little bubble of “just me and the drama” and I don’t have to think about outside input. Or deal with drama about the drama. If that makes sense.

For example, I’ll probably watch R88, but probably not for a few months, or even this year. I’m happy for all the gnashing of teeth over who’s the husband to die down and everyone forgets about it, so then I can just watch it with no stress. Sometimes the more hype a drama gets, the less I want to watch because there’s this bizarre stigma I place on myself about how I ought to react to the show versus how I intrinsically feel about it.

…I’m a very selfish drama watcher, apparently…

I feel like I’m in a bit of a slump with dramas. Reply 1988 only has 2 eps left, I put SFD on hold cause I’m not feeling the political saeguk stuff (not my fave genre). Not sure how I feel about CitT, and I have yet to start Remember or Moorim.

I feel you, although I’m not really in a slump so much as I have no time to check everything out. But I’m pretty sure most of 2015 was a slump-year for me, so I’m sorry if this will be your slump year, too. I don’t know what to say except maybe revisit some old faves (rewatching Hanadan was such a breath of fresh air and reminded me why I got into dramas in the first place) or just take a break.

Dramas will always be there. There will always be more dramas to pick up the slack, and if you wait long enough, everyone else will weed out the wheat from the chaff and you can pick only the “good” ones to watch without wasting your time with something that goes sour in the end. At least, that’s my philosophy. :p

As an aside and not to pressure you into watching it, I’m totally enjoying Remember, as ridiculous as it is. I’m a sucker for anything that looks like it was lovingly created (*cries over the camera work*) and as ridiculous as the plot is, there’s enough going on that it keeps my short-attention span focused. It’s not everyone’s taste though, and I can respect that. For a drama that I didn’t originally choose to watch, it’s been worth it so far.